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    Thumbs up Re: The Next Comanche 4

    °UFS° is with ya... I have sent your post to all on my Member from the °UFS° Squadron - Germany
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    Re: The Next Comanche 4

    bonjour a tous...! je serai très heureux de voir un nouveau comanche 4 arriver sur la toile...! une évolution de notre bon vieux jeu C4 serai vraiment la bienvenue ....! ayant volé sur cet hélicoptère pendant 3 ans avec la TEAM LFS les combats en ligues me manque et je pense ne pas être le seul dans ce cas....!

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    Re: The Next Comanche 4

    Quote Originally Posted by LD snow LFS View Post
    bonjour a tous...! je serai très heureux de voir un nouveau comanche 4 arriver sur la toile...! une évolution de notre bon vieux jeu C4 serai vraiment la bienvenue ....! ayant volé sur cet hélicoptère pendant 3 ans avec la TEAM LFS les combats en ligues me manque et je pense ne pas être le seul dans ce cas....!
    Hi all...!
    I will be very happy to see a new comanche on the net...! an evolution of our good old-fashioned C4 would be really welcome ...!
    I fly for three years with this helicoptere with the LFS team , fighting in the league lacked to me and I think not alone in this situation...!


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    Re: The Next Comanche 4

    Quote Originally Posted by wildman2 View Post
    What do you think is the best way to try and persuade NL to release a new game?

    Should be fairly easy to port/build on an existing engine.Especially if said engine already has flyable/controllable choppers in it already like BHD/JO's.Scale the existing tunnels up add a bunch of the Bldgs vehicles and decorations from all previous games.Then one could operate in campaigns around the globe from jungle to to city environments an everything in between.And of course include the mod tools from the gitgo.Could be a cash cow if done right.I dont see a what do you want in a helo game thread yet?Think we need one?
    Now a question for you programming guru's...
    How hard would it be to convert BHD to a chopper game.Restricting or removing controllable ground forces and enlarge the tunnels ? Import whatever that can be ported into the BHD engine with the BHD mod tools?
    I've been itching to make some stuff since now that I am laid off for a bit.
    "How hard would it be to convert BHD to a chopper game"

    BHD isn't where we would need to look, it would be Joint Operations it already has most of what is needed, 3 heli with weapons, mod tools and the ability to add new content.

    What would need removed would be the other player classes exept for a pilot class.

    The bigger issue is the joy stick controles and adding new weapons to the helicopters they should have hydras added for coop and single player use.
    It's been a while since I played JO, but it seems the pilot controles guns the gunner fires the stingers. I neat set up for TDM (require team work.
    ), but a problem for DM or players that want full control of the whole air craft.

    The biggest problem would be finding a player that could recode the game .exe.

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    Sorry Reaper have to disagree with your last post.

    I think players should have full control of the chopper no matter what game type they play.

    And Hydras should be made avalible for DM also. I've had many hours of fun playing guys like DustDevil in those games.

    But hopefully Nova will listen, and hopefully they wont forget the other game types they almost left out in C4 like TKOTH and Search & Destroy.

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    Re: The Next Comanche 4

    Hey!! it was mentioned in one of the earlier posts to write down something you may like to see new in a new game......thought it might be kind of cool to be able to dress your chopper up a bit...Squadron insignia's and the like!

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    Re: The Next Comanche 4

    I have a Draft petition ready..
    Here's a first look

    PETITION
    We, the worldwide members of the Comanche 4 Gaming Community, hereby petition NovaLogic, Inc, for a new/updated Comanche game program to replace/update our favorite game of all time... Comanche 4.
    We have flown, worked on, and kept alive the current version of Comanche 4, for the last 8 years. In order to keep this game alive, many of us have spent untold hours learning all aspects of the original game and its files, to create some very masterful maps, scenery and tactical engagements, but we are now at the end of what we can do, because we have reached the limits of what the game can do.
    We have supported C4 this long, because we enjoy the game, the battles, the tactics, and above all, the friends and friendships we have made over the years. Now, it’s time for Nova to step up and show us that our efforts to keep this game alive all these years, has not been in vain.
    We need a new updated game, or new version of C4, with the latest Graphics Engine, more capacity for creating weather (snow, rain, etc), more choices for map making, like new scenery and terrain options. New weapons loading options, new aircraft coloring, updated video quality (preferably HD), and overall game performance enhancements, to bring it up to Nova’s current standards for gaming performance.
    Comanche 4, as we see it, was Nova’s Flagship Game. The one game that got Nova recognized, and the one that all the others (since) have been built from. Now, it’s Comanche 4’s turn to be updated, to once again shine as Nova’s Flagship Helicopter Combat Sim, and the only one of its kind on the market.
    Our members are more than happy to provide input and do testing at your convenience. We have websites, commercial and private game servers, VOIP, and many other communication or game server options available for your use, if needed. We have map designers, mission planners and plenty of top notch, computer smart guys and gals with years of experience in this program, who would love to assist you in anyway they can.
    Our central point of contact for this effort is www.checkpointdelta.net, under Comanche 4. There, you will find many discussions on this topic. We await your input and hope that you become actively engaged in bringing us a new Comanche!

    We the undersigned do hereby agree with the above statements and sign our names in full support of this effort as supporters of Comanche 4.
    Rotor6 *CFS*

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    Re: The Next Comanche 4

    Oh Rotor, that is really nice.

    Let's see what others think? Some may want to add or revise to that, but I do think it's a fine pettition.

    Thanks for the initiative.

    May a song always touch u in a possitive way.

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    Re: The Next Comanche 4

    Adding a sig to the helicopter:
    The problem with that is the way the game uses the player graphic file.
    It may be possible to add a sig however only that player would see it.
    This is also an area we as a community would have to really be cafefull of.
    Keep in mind any time the player model can be changed some players would take advantage of it.

    Knuckels were in agreement: players need full controle of the aircraft weapons for every gametype.
    However having a game type were 2 players used the helo as pilot and gunner would add a nice twist to team play.
    For an example players use comanche to play as a solo player attack helo with the Apache needing team work. Set the scoring so the team helo gets more points for a kill.

    I also liked to play hydras. However over all that weapon got very little play over all in multiplayer. Hellfire was used very little even in single player or coop.

    Players need to voice the things they would like in the game, so we can all look at it and if Nova does come read the threads here get an idea of what we want.

    One of the advantages of playing the newer games Nova released, modding , map creating and mission building in C4 and those other games is you get a pretty good picture of what Nova has done with the game engine. I can tell you this. C4 has very little of the best this game engine was upgraded to offer.

    Rotor:
    The petition is great lets give the community a week to voice their opinion then you should post it at Nova.

    That means the comunity needs to post what you want in the game. Once that's done we can combine it into one post so it has a better chance of getting read. Players can also add a copy to emails to Nova and reg mail should some of us do that also.
    Last edited by Reaper; 06-10-2009 at 07:18 PM.

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    Re: The Next Comanche 4

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    "BHD isn't where we would need to look, it would be Joint Operations it already has most of what is needed, 3 heli with weapons, mod tools and the ability to add new content.

    What would need removed would be the other player classes exept for a pilot class.

    The bigger issue is the joy stick controles and adding new weapons to the helicopters they should have hydras added for coop and single player use.
    It's been a while since I played JO, but it seems the pilot controles guns the gunner fires the stingers. I neat set up for TDM (require team work.
    ), but a problem for DM or players that want full control of the whole air craft.

    The biggest problem would be finding a player that could recode the game .exe."
    Reaper:
    I wasn't speculating bout a player coding the game but NovaLogic doing it themselves since they know the code to begin with.For them it should be simpler then a player fiddling under the hood of the exe.Sorry for the confusion.
    Good joystick controls are a must.A helo that needs 2 ppl in it may be interesting.Isn't there a helo now in real life that needs 2 ppl in it,1 to fly the other 2 gun?

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    Re: The Next Comanche 4

    Awsome.....Ready to sign, E-mail or whatever is necessary.

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    Re: The Next Comanche 4

    Well, I would like to see the following in an updated or similar Comanche 4 game:

    1) cheater protection

    2) Air and ground targets in Single player mode

    3) Coop missions

    4)Multi input controller compatibility and Force feedback support

    5)Possibly the ability to have a protected Game username (so no other players can use your username)

    6) Retaining the technology as in C4 where stingers smartly track a target without having to lock onto the target, but also better countermeasure ability than in C4.

    7) A variey of aircraft models

    May a song always touch u in a possitive way.

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    Re: The Next Comanche 4

    I see every one of these as good ideas, but let’s be careful. If we go in asking for the next generation in gaming software, with all the bells and whistles, we may be waiting for the next generation to create it!
    We need to send them a simple shot across the bow…. A petition, notice, letter, email... something that will get their attention that we want to talk to them and get them talking to us. Once we get a good point of contact (that we can rely on), then we can get this dog to hunt.

    Step ONE: Let’s get them talking to us!

    Step TWO: We need to agree on the things we know they can fix easily or make better with little effort, and get our C4 smart guys to help them get there. The key to this is to be very tactful when we ask, and be very cautious that we do not ask for more than they are willing to give.

    Once they see that we are serious and have the knowledge to get this program in work, I think they will open up and pretty much ask what we want…

    If it doesn’t work, all they can do is ignore us for another 8 years…

    Anybody got enough money to buy controlling shares in Nova… ??? LOL
    Rotor6 *CFS*

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    Re: The Next Comanche 4

    It is true that we shouldn't ask for much. My post above this one is merely in compliance to Reaper asking us to state what we would like to see in a update or new Comanche type of game.

    It is my understanding that all of this will be reviewed and we will settle upon what request to make for a new update or whatever.

    We surely need Nova talking to us first.

    I'm just posting what I would like to see in a possible new update or game.

    As others begin to post what they would like to see, let's be aware that all this will be reviewed and we'll determine what is a reasonable request to make of Nova.

    Cya all around.

    May a song always touch u in a possitive way.

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    Re: The Next Comanche 4

    Agree with all you said. Agree that we need to listen to everyone, and review every proposal. I only meant that we should be trying to talk to them first. Then go forward from there
    Rotor6 *CFS*

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