C4-server behind router

[kill_me{FWD}]

hi, think the prob was discussed more than one time but even if i make it as described it wont work.
the situation is as follows:
a C4-server behind a DSL-router(with built in modem and switch or hub) D-LINK DSL-564T.
to start the server is possible and the server is visible, but i can not join it with my other computer behind the same router and it isnt joinable for all others going over the internet to that server as well.
i tried DMZ, port-forwarding, firewall on router and on server on and off and all that stuff, but i do not get it to work, so that it is joinable. the ip (for the internet) is dynamically given by the isp every time the router establishes a connection; i think the timeout is not set too low.

hope someone has a hint for me that enlightens me a bit.

next prob will be then, how to administrate the machine and C4-server through the router from the internet.

thanks in advance

[W@tchtower*CFS*]

Yep, I have a similar problem with a Linksys Router model befw11s4 B band, I cant host behind it, but if I go straight to the modem, no problem hosting, of course then I cant join from another PC. I read the post here a while back about config. the router, but it didnt work for me. Im not sure how to open the port for C4 in the router. If anybody has any ideas...

[TerrorX]

In order to play a game on the same network you are hosting from you have to play LAN or IPX works as well.

IPX play is fairer for all playing because IPX move the packets at the same pace as the internet packets are moving.

I hope this helps.

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[unoyt]

On my dedicated server at the office I can join behind the router from another machine, but when I come in, my pilot's name becomes blank by default and I cant change it.

It is a Linksys I hope this helps

Salut et à bientôt.

unoyt

[unoyt]

Originally posted by W@tchtower*CFS*
Yep, I have a similar problem with a Linksys Router model befw11s4 B band, I cant host behind it, but if I go straight to the modem, no problem hosting, of course then I cant join from another PC. I read the post here a while back about config. the router, but it didnt work for me. Im not sure how to open the port for C4 in the router. If anybody has any ideas...

If you host with V 20, you have to set the hosting machine in the DMZ.

Salut et à bientôt.

Later

unoyt

[WiperSix2]

I used to server sometimes behind an older linksys router. these are the settings I used (worked for ver15fixed and 20fixed):

Router linksys befsr41 firmware rev: 1.40.2, Oct 23 2001
-dynamic routing:
working mode: gateway
tx: disabled
rx: disabled
-advanced/filters:
block wan request: disabled (allows echo/shows ping of server on the server list, but also disables a lot of the router's basic security features)
-advanced/port forwarding:
ports:17200-17250 protocol: both ip addy: - forwarded to
server ip (I started my internal ip's at 100, so server ip would be
192.168.1.100 - don't mistake your router ip or your external ip for the internal ip of the machine you want to forward to)
port 7: same
port 13: same
(note - I don't think forwarding is necessary, and if you have any other servers running behind the router, its probably undesirable anyway, cause NAT should send to the correct machine anyway)

Because of disabling the block wan request, I always served with a software firewall in place - the (free) one I found that worked best was agnitum's outpost (www.agnitum.com). On xp machine I have xp's firewall disabled, as well as a lot of services (see c4league website for services turned off). I also turned off every program except ae, even scheduler, to try to avoid ci's. norton program's caused problems. there is a free antivirus program avg antivirus that works well, but it really doesn't need to be running for c4 server.

if your server says its running, but others can't see it or join, try
going to www.grc.com, shields up, scroll down to shields up again, click proceed, then scroll down to the "shields up services", enter 17200 in the box and click on "user specified custom port probe", if the result returns "stealth", then either your router or firewall is still blocking the port (may return "closed" even though comanche is running )

Note on ip. My ISP gives me 5 ips, so I use a switch (instead of router) after the modem, and run any servers off that. That puts the router down the line, and if I use it all all, it has all the security running (block wan request: enabled) , and whatever is behind it doesn't serve anything(what's the use of using the router and then turning off all the security it provides?) If you only have one ip though, you are pretty much stuck into using it as the gateway/router, and so your security hinges on whatever software firewall you use behind the router on each machine.

Also one note on the outpost firewall. It is also open source, and there is a great add on you can download called blockpost which you can use to permanently block ip's from accessing your machine.

that's everything I know(or think I know lol), hope it helps.

[kill_me{FWD}]

visited grc.com and found out that my prob is the router.
looks like i need an other router.

thank you wiper for the help.

[MasterX(BKC)]

I had the same problem with a belkin router and it took 2 weeks to figure it out, on many rouiters if you have forwarded the correct ports to the serving pc and turned on DMZ it causes a conflict on some routers, make sure forwards are removed or turned off when using dmz and vise versa, another possibility is that the serving pc may have the ports blocked by a firewall software on the pc itself. also ports may be disabled by a hidden feature of windows that blocks ports thouyght to be malicious, to unblock them do a file search on the serving pc for files named "hosts" or "lmhosts" with any range of ending extensions, delete them and then your problem may be solved, C4 uses seprate ports for sending list info to NW and communicating with players,
if that fails follow your idea for a new router, ones powered by cisco seem to work the best in my experience, look for a cisco logo or sticker on routers and you should have a good one.....

[vesh fey]

Also you can open the "port foraward" option I optned up ports 17200-17300 TCP/UDP and ICMP. I set My PC-Cillian to the same. that way I have the Modem doing the most of my firewall junk and saves CPU for C4!

[TerrorX]

I created some screenshots of the best settings I have found. They are located on our clan site. It is a pretty big gif file so let me know if there is a problem veiwing it. I have altered the private IP address for my protection. Have fun.

http://www.niteprowlersclan.com/Site...GamingHelp.gif

I am outy for now,

Hasta Mi Amigos,

[RAB]

I have a DSL Modem/Router and also a Linksys wireless router. It took me a little while to get the settings straight but i have no problem running a dedicated server from one machine and my game from the other PC. If you still need help with yours send me an e mail or come in my server some time and I'll be glad to help.

[kill_me{FWD}]

thanks RAB.
i'll get back to you next weekend.
i reread the thread and think i overread the hint from masterX concerning the host-files. if both next weekend wont work, well from april on i'll have an other isp with higher bandwidth 3000/512 then instead of 2000/384. i'll also try to give the rusty usb-DSLmodem a try again even if i dont like that box.
didnt mentioned it before but when i start the server then for some reason my c4.cfg is changed, means the port i wrote in is overwritten with a zero - have no clue why. either its AE or its the nocdEXE or winXP.

[W@tchtower*CFS*]

Actually RAB I do need your help, I tried to follow Wipers instructions, I just dont think it works on my particular LYNKSYS router Let me know when you are free and we can get on TS.
Thanks

[<KA7>BlueSteel]

I use a Sonicwall firewall and all I have opened are ports 17200-17500 UDP and port forwarded these ports to the IP of my server. I also opened up the ability for players to see the ping of my server. Theoretically, these settings should work on any router. If you are still experiencing problems, you might also check to see if there are any firmware updates for your specific router.

[RAB]

Ill be around guys if you need me. If my server is up come on in. Even if I'm not flying. I usually watch the server screen if the server is running. Give a shout. I saw Unoyt's comment about having to host from the DMZ. I run both machines from the same network and no DMZ. Myself I dont like letting anything wide open to the internet like that. You know there are people out there like me with to much time on there hands. Lucky for yall I'm a nice