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If that's all there is to it this topic should be mute. If someone has an issue with NC's, and 2.0 is as easy as this fix, they should only play on servers with 2.0 running.
I'll let SON know about the patch.
Thanks again
Ham
I am sorry but this will not fix the problem now you have new issues. I was flying in a V2 server and 1 death scored as 3 kills on me and there was only one death. I have had 2 kills scored on several occasions for one death now tell me how that is going to help fix the problem.
OhNo
Well you're right there, and I've had the same in come and get it but here's the difference. It's random and hates everyone equally, it's not forced as far as I know. If your opponent had a way of maneuvering to cause that, I'd see a problem. If all fly by the same rules then it's fair. If some change the rules including scroing, than that's alittle different. Hope the nova pulling C4 from the server list isn't true is it?
Ham
It is not true at this time as nova says in there forum.
The extra deaths did not seem random to me when I was getting double deaths everytime I was killed.
It doesnt fix the problem It gives players the chose of what type of scoring they prefer.
1.5 flying to bring health to 0 with the last stinger or cannon fired making a direct hit. needed to score the point no counts if you don't hit the player with a direct hit and they get to 0 health and blow up.
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version 2 splash damage scores as a point. with with the game making the kill reading as an error and saying you crashed when you didn't and losing a point on some attacks.
At this time it's as simple as that. Players choose what scoring system they prefer.
In version 2 you wait for AE if you want every 1 3h or exept 8h players and live with that and the efam bug for the time being.
By the way come and get it is novas house server and runs version 2 out of califoria, That why there are 8h players there and the efam bug can be used.
Thanks
I'm digging in my closet for the Ole C4 disk to load LOL
I shelved it and unloaded it from the machine after getting ticked off about the forced NC issue about a month ago. I'll give it another try with V2.
Like I said, if rules and scoring is equal for both sides I can live with it, just so long as my opponent isn't determining my score.
Thank you No Escape….I do appreciate the response you made as well.
After a couple of days reading people responses I feel I can post again.
I’m glad everyone has finally gotten to the topic as it is.
Is it a glitch? I don’t know…they wrote it…..not me. For that matter…Can anyone here be knowledgeable enough to have that information? If you are….Please post the details.
I have seen a lot of interesting theories as to how an NC is made and of course every one of them have some validity.
Now…on to the facts. If an NC is a glitch…Which I don’t disagree…
Then why don’t they make a patch. I’ll play still…I love the game too much and the people in it.
Beyond that….I also agree with INSO, for the most part, regarding how NC’s occur.
There are so many factors….a move that can be obviously be mastered….and also comes just plain natural to others….
Thank you INSO for your insight into the details.
As far as it being the equal to chicken farping…well….you go the hell ahead and run into a hill.. I’m going to avoid your stingers… you die.. I will live…. Or die.. and there’s an NC for me.
That’s a fact partner. It’s going to happen no matter what smack appears in this forum or in any e-mail that gets sent out…. NC’s are a FACT.
Why is it Fact?
Because there is no patch number one… Number two, 90% of the pilots that I have gone up against in the past 2 months have pulled NC’s and will continue to. Most of them whether or not they mean to. One thing for sure… You wont see me accusing my buddies of cheating over something that everyone “Can do”….If they want.
If an NC is a cheat…then I guess I’m a cheat…Run me out of your server to whatever extent you must.
Now wont that be great.. Now everyone that was considered a friend is now considered a foe. You must be joking!! That will never happen!
The Fact is….Just as many of you have posted… Strafing away is most of an NC.
Everyone does it…….Another fact. …Some do it better.
I also Drive Straight into the stingers….(what?) yeah…straight into them.
When Firing my stingers…4-6 at a time…I alternate my guns…reducing the possibility of my opponent getting a No Count and raising my chances of getting a count.
I did this for several reasons. The first and foremost being…I was getting my butt smacked against pilots that were doing the exact same thing.
So most of them aren’t going to post…because of all the horrible things people are saying about people who pull them. Well…Not me…
I will play this game any way the community wants…..Let’s wait and see what truly happens in the servers. That will be the true test to see if everyone can make it there duty not to pull a No Count…..LMAO
My integrity stands….at least I can accept the truth and the inevitability of change that will continue to happen if we want to be better players. ( and will again if there’s a patch or someone has a fix of some sort)
Every Pilot knows that sooner or later they are going to go invisible….It’s a glitch in the game. Are some people going to exploit it….Yup…they are….they do…and they will continue to. I wont….I don’t need to. This topic is not even an equivalent comparison to No Counts. It’s not even in the same category…flat plain and simple.
Being invisible is something that just happens.. I don’t even know of a pilot that raised his hand to want to be invis. I have heard rumors of pressing this and that button to become invis…but see no benefit to this procedure…It’s obviously not fair.
However….It remains a fact in the game… and the only thing any of us can do is wait for a patch and adjust to the fact that there will always be an ignoramus that attempts to deceive another in the game. FACT
I am not deceiving anyone when as NC occurs… I am AVOIDING your stingers and shooting stingers and Cannons back at you. Nothing more or less. ( I also have hours of practice at it.)
The next FACT I want people to be aware of is that as we adapt in this game….the players become better.
People like CO Reaper and a few others continue to help pilots be more efficient and to learn how to fly without getting killed.. Isn’t that what this “GAME” is all about.. Getting to the top of the list.. Isn’t that the challenge or is everyone washed out?
That’s what makes a human….the desire to achieve…get better.. Welcome to the human race!!! (indecently also the reason why they put a number 1 at the top of the list instead of at the bottom)
On the other hand…..It’s great to be at the bottom of the list… It often puts me in my place (lol). Yeah…I am a human too..and have spent my time there as well.
The anti in C4 has been upped many times in the past year. From sticks and their macros to NC’s and Extreme Fast Cannons.
Let me tell you… My X 45 doesn’t shoot out cannons at 500 rpms…..but if you want a SURE KILL…..shoot fast with your cannons and you will get that count. You don’t and won’t hear me wine about it…..I’ll simply adjust to your flying technique and eventually I will still whoop your butt.
There are plenty who use Extreme Rapid fire as well. I don’t even have the ability with my stick to produce those numbers…..They are killing me with it. Is it Cheating too? It’s not fair that they have access to a feature in the game that I don’t , right?
At least with an NC….everyone has the opportunity to have one….
I guess what I’m trying to say is..
A) We all have to adjust…
As I have learned to play this game, I have had to ask many others how to do this and how to do that.
B) Let’s be real.. NC’s are going to happen… (unless Someone can fix)
C) Let’s not bash other players and call them cheaters…..It’s not our fault they made it work like that…Join a different server that doesn’t score the same way if you don’t like it.
D) I will continue to help other players ON PURPOSE. This will be the best defense against NC’s currently. Join me and any other C4’ers that Have the know how!!
Perhaps NOVA or someone could write a one stinger kill!!! That would be more realistic yet!!
In the mean time, I’m going to avoid your stingers…and I suggest you do the same to mine….
Seriously…..I’m here to help in any way I can….Including a fix….
See you all in the friendly skies…… Later…Str8up
Once again, and it's mute with me since I wont play in non V2 server anymore.
If you avoid being killed it's not a cheat and it's legit. If you are killed and you do anything to prevent the FACT you were killed from being counted it's A: skill B: Cheat
Thanks again INSO for the V2 fix.
Oh yeah....also....I prefer the challenge of a pilot today that can pull an NC. I actually look forward to seeing who can master the technique each time I go up against him or her.
It's no offense to anyone....It is just my preferenece. I fly for fun and to help others....It's a great game... and I must have been writing my other post when you responded Reaper...
That was awsome..!!! Thanks man!!
Also started a fourth page on this stuff...he he...
Did you think it would be this hot N/E? ... Good one. Cya out there bud!!
Later....Str8
Well think about it. If you prefer to play against someone that can pull off a N/C you're with US!!! I prefer to be able to shoot someone and blow them up, It means I BEAT HIM/HER. Problem is that it didn't count. The better pilot won but wasn't credited for it.
Wow this might go to page 5 LOL
Thats exactly what will fasten the demise of C4!!!Originally posted by Str8_up
... 90% of the pilots that I have gone up against in the past 2 months have pulled NC’s and will continue to. ...
Now what do u think? Every or allmost every player learns how to accuse no counts. Of course it will not allways happen and u be happy u killed somebody and got the count because he didnt do the right move. But will it still be fun if the game turns out to steal a count then to get a count by killing my opponent? NC's are the funkiller #1 in this game. A lot of players dont play anymore just because of this one fact and thats why we have to shout out loud and maybe...... yeah maybe someone hears it.
The more players learn how to accuse no counts, the more players will stop playing.
And thats what its all about!!!
N_E
I want to Know just one thing does the SCORE mean that much to everyone? Not me I just play NC no NC lagg CIs. I think if all this bothers everyone so much break your disc and throw it in the trash.and don't play.If the score does matter that much just catch me in a server and say you need a drone I will fly around and let you shoot me. thats just how much I care,and I think it is time to sotp shouting or crying. JUST PLAY THE GAME. all this CRAP makes me want to break my disc.
Don't cry Don't complain "JUST say OhNo"
I don't know about throwing around the word 'demise'. But for the sake of carrying your thought a bit further into the 'oblivion'... I will pick up the 'Devil's Advocate' stance and run with it...
In advance, I will apologize if I offend... but I'm taking an opposing stance.
What you may want to consider is not whether your participation (or any other, for that matter...) is VITAL to the continuation of the C4 community - but exactly what your participation involved.
So far... I have seen the same general apathy towards just doing what would be the considerate thing - and turning of the repeated firing and macros and enjoy the game 'au naturale'.
" I'm set up to fire 2 stingers.... " " I'm experimenting with rotating cannons and stingers " "I'm setup to fire four stingers" - and the best excuse for your exploiting (and that is what it is ). " well, everybody else is doing it, I'm simply adapting " This is BS and avoidance of the issues. You sound like 'the busted' in a riot filled street of looters.
I'll tell you something - there is something someone talks about that rings so true, but no-one really cares to hear... really hear... concerning 'choosing with whom you play....'
We all have our opinions... and it is great to respect anothers... but, if someone does fix it - do you really think they would or should share it with the likes of you and your mindless 'sheep at the slaughter ' attitude...? Who knows, maybe there is already a fix - and while you mindless spectors are touting your 'exploits' - you are actually only digging yourselves deeper into the world of unfulfilling play.
Yeah guys and gals, ya'll 'come and get it' now - we'll be sure and show this 'dead end' sign to those left, while those in the right are flying the fair skies.
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