Polytrn error

[Redhawk]

We have a couple of our squad members making some maps that we continue some contnue to get polytrn error when they load in. They are using the new med for making the maps so I'm not sure where the conflick is at. We all have the EXP mod v6.0 and terrain packs installed. I have the 1.5 version that a few of us downloaded when you first put them up for download and the ones with the 1.5 and 6.0 versions installed can fly the maps fine, but the one's with only 6.0 get the polytrn errors. Zak sent message that 6.0 would work as well as 1.5 but it doesn't. Not sure what has changed between the 2 versions, but something is different somewhere. Since both versions are well in excess of 100 megs there is no easy way of sending the file through any of the available file transfers in the messager applications so it is extremely difficult to distribute the file to everyone one in the squad plus as the only full time Comanche 4 public server besides CAGI it would mean no one could fly in certain new maps that doesn't have this download version. Is it possible to get the older 1.5 version of C4ExPansion pack put back on they downloads in the mods? Or can you help us as we try to determine exactly where the problem lies. could the problem be in a missing or corruct terrain when updating to the 6.0 version? Are there any changes at all to the med program in the Upgrade? I'm not sure the differences so I'm trying to narrow it down so we can get these maps for all to enjoy. My hunch is that it is just 1 or 2 little things instead of everyone in our squad and anyone else that wants to fly in the server to have to download the entire 125 megs in the C4ExPmod 1.5 file. I would appreciate any Ideas or input that may help us solve this issue.

[Bluetiereign]

OK... first things first... the MOD is now at 6.1...But soon to be at 6.2 ( by Wed. morning ). I'm sorry I didn't announce this update, I guess it slipped my mind. There were some critical changes made in that update - and ZAK has updated the terrain pack. All of this to say...


Unfortunately...

Due to the size of it combined with backing up the forums and updating vBulletin this weekend.. I removed the file and all traces of it off of my computer after the upgrade to 6.0..
Due to working on the upgrade of the forums and portal and tightening of a few loose ends for the C4 Revolution Startup - I have not updated the MOD or terrain pack - but ZAK has diligently been searching out and correcting bugs - one of which may very well be a fix for the errors you guys are getting now.If I'm not mistaken, the polytrn error has to do with a missing or incorrectly named texture. If you can pinpoint the terrain that is giving them the error - we can look into what is causing the error... but... even better....

Give me until tomorrow to get the Terrain Packs and ExP MOD updated. It should cause no problems to simply re-install the terrain pack and MOD with the updated files - and see if this clears up the errors. If not... well, we'll go from there.

I am sorry for all of this... but I really needed to spend some time taking care of some CPD Portal/Forum issues.

[Bluetiereign]

Additionally, ZAK has been offering incremental upgrades on his site (http://home.arcor.de/roadrunner21485/BHD_Seite.htm). This might be more along the lines of what you are looking for to resolve the issues.

[ZAK]

Red Hawk, you find the Update for 6.0 under Mods on my Comanche4 Page.
If you Install the new Terrains, us not the Optimize2.bat or Optimize3.bat
Mabe before you Mod installed a Reinstallation of C4.
I have this Day my Server Repair and the c4exp Mod Installed.

I want by the next Update this all Terrains from the 2 Packs Included in the Mod, I work to time on c4 Vehicles for Jungle Terrains, and later for Snow Terrains. http://www.checkpointdelta.net/showthread.php?p=21130#post21130

[Redhawk]

Thanks for the help and we look forward to the updates. It's good to see that some folks are still dedicated to helping the C4 community instead of trying to tear it down more and more as it seems some keep trying to do.

[ZAK]

The best Installation Sequence for the c4exp is:
1
Install the Terrain packs

2
Install the Mod
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Have you Installed the Mod before the terrain packs, reinstall the c4exp mod.
I think this the Optimize 2 or 3 a Little numbers on trn files Describe does.

I have this see by the Installation on my server, have by the Mission Scud alley the message become Polytrn error!.

[Inso «Ð*§*§»]

Hi Red which Polytrn Error are these guys getting as there are a number of them. Having the exact error will greatly help in fixing this quickly.


EX:

polytrn colormap
polytrn detailmap
polytrn depthmap
polytrn polydata
polytrn tilestrip
polytrn charmap

[Redhawk]

I'll have to ask since I am not having the problem. I think it was the polytrn colormap but I'm not sure. I'll post soon as I can contact the ones with the issue. I should know tomorrow. Thanks

[Inso «Ð*§*§»]

Hi again Red, Ask them two things both need to be exact what error and what terrian/s Thanks!

[Bluetiereign]

I apologize for all of this Red, but rest assured, we are working on it. Due to the fact that this file is Packed -> Uploaded -> Downloaded -> Unpacked -> Repacked and Uploaded again --> all before anyone downloads it to their computer - it could be something as 'simple' as a corrupt file.

As Inso has said, if we can narrow down the terrain name and the exact error - we'll be very close to figuring out if it is a missing file or just a corrupt one.

Both the ExP Mod and Terrain Pack (#1) have been updated.

[Redhawk]

I know the terrain is called "zoo" I'm not sure if it came with the ExP terrain packs or the BHD or TFD converted terrains. I have all the downloads including ExP 1.5 on one of my systems so I can probably trace it down if I need to.

[ZAK]

I know the Source of error, you have klick of the OPTIMIZE.bat or?
The Optimize.bat Write the Trn file from the c4exp new, the Information in the Trn File is later a only Chaos.
The raw and tga File is not defect from the :ar15: Optimize.bat
I have this error self found by the Setup from my Server.
Reinstall the c4exp new (not the Terrain Packs), do not use the OPTIMIZE.bat

Red Hawk:
If you want send i you the trn files via E-Mail

BTR:
I have you the Balkan mod for the c4exp upload. in the mod is the med fix, new Gun Sound for Tanks, and a terrain fix from the dfg2 terrain, the dfg2 Terrain in the Mappack1 is to Brightly.

[ZAK]

I apologize for all of this Red, but rest assured, we are working on it. Due to the fact that this file is Packed -> Uploaded -> Downloaded -> Unpacked -> Repacked and Uploaded again --> all before anyone downloads it to their computer - it could be something as 'simple' as a corrupt file.

As Inso has said, if we can narrow down the terrain name and the exact error - we'll be very close to figuring out if it is a missing file or just a corrupt one.

Both the ExP Mod and Terrain Pack (#1) have been updated.

Ah m, the ZOO Terrain is in the c4exp, not in a Mappack

[Redhawk]

I know the Source of error, you have klick of the OPTIMIZE.bat or?
The Optimize.bat Write the Trn file from the c4exp new, the Information in the Trn File is later a only Chaos.
The raw and tga File is not defect from the :ar15: Optimize.bat
I have this error self found by the Setup from my Server.
Reinstall the c4exp new (not the Terrain Packs), do not use the OPTIMIZE.bat

Red Hawk:
If you want send i you the trn files via E-Mail

BTR:
I have you the Balkan mod for the c4exp upload. in the mod is the med fix, new Gun Sound for Tanks, and a terrain fix from the dfg2 terrain, the dfg2 Terrain in the Mappack1 is to Brightly.

Zak,That would be good if you can e-mail them, or if they are on CPD I could link to them on our website if that is OK. I thank you for helping. I enjoy the new maps and you and BTR and Reaper have gotten 2 of our pilots involved in map making with the tools you have offered here on your site. C4 may not be what it used to be but, I think maybe it will be around for a while with new stuff to offer thanks to ya'll.

[ZAK]

Red Hawk:waving.gif: i have News for you, in the next Time Coming (for a long long Time) a new Version from the c4exp, it is the c4exp v7.2 Final.
i have remove the M1A2 Desert, aenemy1 and 2, c-130, Bradley Deser Camouflage Deleted.
i ahve a new Version This day Upload on BTRs Server.
I thing that in 1 or 2 Days the new Version coming on CPD.
Terrain pack 1 and 2, Is now Include in the c4exp v7.2, the optimize.bat is deleted in the c4exp 7.2.
No more in Future Poly trn error :alcoholic.gif:

[Bluetiereign]

This will take more than 1 or 2 days. This will likely take a greater part of a week. We are instituting some major changes to the mod, as well as stopping the updating of the MOD.

People have voiced concerns of having no idea which version they need to use on their server or which version they need to join a server. This will stop with this update. There will be a single version of the MOD available here at Checkpointdelta.


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On a side note:

I am not really sure how optimizing the pff's could be causing integrity failure of a file inside the .pff's as the opt command only appears to optimize the reference tables inside the pff, not the files themselves ---- unless someone has a corrupted pack.exe in their current install of C4. I may be wrong about this, but I have encountered none of these errors when using the optimize.bat.

[Bluetiereign]

Zak,That would be good if you can e-mail them, or if they are on CPD I could link to them on our website if that is OK. I thank you for helping. I enjoy the new maps and you and BTR and Reaper have gotten 2 of our pilots involved in map making with the tools you have offered here on your site. C4 may not be what it used to be but, I think maybe it will be around for a while with new stuff to offer thanks to ya'll.

After the mod is updated, the files you are attempting to 'update' with will very likely not be enough. There are more changes going on inside the C4ExP than the replacement of some files here or changes in the files there. As I stated in my previous post, it would be best to consider what you guys are running now as a beta. When the final ExP is released this week, copy your c4plyr.sav file and any other files you wish to keep (mis, bms, startup.htm, etc) to another directory, uninstall C4 completely and erase the directory. Under no cirucumstances should any of the pff files be kept. Then, do a clean install, update and install the MOD. This is the ONLY way that you can be assured that something does not get lost or mistakenly overwritten.

As for linking files directly to CPD, that is not an option from a remote site. Sorry, but 'hotlinking' to our files has been disabled.

I am sorry for the inconvenience, but rest assured... many things are coming to fruition after some patient waiting by the C4 community. We are also putting a big effort into Version Control. This will help at finding problems with more speed and efficiency, among other things.

Again, I apologize for the inconvenience, but this was our first release of this magnitude - and the events of the last month have been harsh and fast paced task masters in learning the 'ins and outs' of offering a large MOD.

[RAB]

I don't know if anybgody else has noticed this or not. Was looking through the map editer with the mod and was looking at the terrain dmds2. It shows fine with the color view. But the highth and depth views only show a black screen. Not sure if it's missing files or what but thought i would try and mention it before the updated download was finished.

[ZAK]

Here is a Update, this was a Error in the trn file (Not Corect Editing)
I have send a Update to BTR.

http://home.arcor.de/roadrunner21485/comanche/C4Mods/dmds2 fix for c4exp.zip

[RAB]

It's ok. As long as yall are aware of it already that means it will be fixed when the final version comes out.

[ZAK]

This was the erorr:

polytrn_colormap DMDS2_c.tga
polytrn_detailmap DMDS2_d.tga
polytrn_depthmap( DMDS.raw )
polytrn_polydata 04poly.cpt
polytrn_tilestrip trntile20.tga
polytrn_charmap DMDS2_m.pcx


Correct:

polytrn_colormap DMDS2_c.tga
polytrn_detailmap DMDS2_d.tga
polytrn_depthmap ( DMDS2.raw )
polytrn_polydata 04poly.cpt
polytrn_tilestrip trntile20.tga
polytrn_charmap DMDS2_m.pcx
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BTR must only Overwrite the old trn file with the new TRn File, this I have upload on the Server.